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And here is how Satsang went on with HIM!

He asked everyone whether they are happy, comfortable esp the foreigners and asked them in their language "como sova" i guess it is spanish.
"So what do you'll want to do today - sing or talk?"
mixed response had him stay silent for sometime and then say,” you have to ask me something for me to talk"

Kashi Bhaiya asked,"Guruji, you only have said before that Karma cannot be changed, ‘halwa’ cannot be ‘rava’, then at what point does the karma become irreversible?"

A: Some karma is reversible some are not. There is no point at which it becomes irreversible.

Q: Guruji, sometimes i know the solution to the problem although i have never really got an experience of the solution, because of which there are some people who do not listen to my solution. How to make them listen?
A: actually more than a question and answer this was a interesting interaction between the devotee and the Guru.
He said that so you are asking me an indirect question and want me to answer to it directly. (Chuckles)
When you are in that problem and you know that that solution will work then you do that thing at that exact time and place and you get that thing.
There you got an indirect answer to your indirect question.
Then converted that indirect question to direct by asking question to the devotee, are you in love? No? Then are u talking about parents? Yes? Then say like that...
what about them? They are not listening to what you are saying? oh so you have a solution to their problems and they are not listening to you.....ok...so you want to know how to make
them listen to you?

He was playing around with a small gajra of chafha which someone had given me.....
There is a problem here, it is like you are the doctor and know the medicine which will cure the patient, but the patient will not take it.
Then he smiles and says... i am also facing the same problem.... terrorists, naxalites i know what they should do but still they don’t listen....
we are in the boat ...almost! So don’t; worry, you keep saying the same thing and it'll be ok.
He goes on to say that whenever someone comes with a problem to you or when you are advising, it shouldn’t be rigid like this will work for you.
If the opp person is hell bent that nothing is going to work for him then you must suggest that so n so MIGHT work, I have seen it work so you can try and see it MIGHT work for you.
This makes the rigid person in a perspective that ok he is not forcing something on me so i can try and see what is this that he is saying so we are changing the outlook from no to maybe here and leaving it at that. After the maybe you can add that i have never seen it fail!
You have seen this so many times before...all mothers use this on the kids and the kids also coax things out of their parents....

Q: what is peace and how do I get it? I mean spiritual peace i am asking spiritually
A: but I am asking practically to you, have you been to the market? No? You are saying that you have never been to a market? Ok have you been to a noisy place where they play loud music? Ok what happens when you move away from it and come to a quieter place? (He answers that it doesn’t get quieter as the music follows)
ok have to gone to a very noisy place? Yes so what happens when you come back at home and relax? That sign of relief is nothing but peace.
What so you do to someone who is banging your roof for a long time? Please give me some peace? What is peace- it is that moment when you experience relief.
That moment when your mind just rests is called peace, when you sit still and meditate is peace.

Q: personal question about how he was ditched in a love triangle and Guruji had come in his dreams and said "leave her" since then he has avoided her and according to him come back on the path, but he wants to know if he can still be friends as she keeps saying that it was he who she really loved n stuff like that.
A: In between laughter, he said that for some time you can avoid her, till the time you become strong avoid, as if you are vulnerable then you will back to the same place.
About going ahead with her again he said, there is no point in repairing what has happened before as the same story will repeat again so better to move ahead.

Then there was this series of question from the same person about eating non veg as he couldn’t answer his friends when they asked him about plants also being alive.
He first said that you can check out on websites you will get all the info, Jains have done a lot of research on this.
on more pestering he went into a rather long discourse of living things to be of two types...moving n immovable. Do you see vegetables walking around? Do you see kaddus runing around when you go to cut it? Cock runs away, Goat, sheep all of them run when you go to slaughter them. You must look into the eye and then kill; can u look into the eye of a cabbage?
Where are its eyes? Another thing is that pumpkin you throw the seeds and these give you more pumpkin..... It is like that...
he told a story of a country which he wouldn't name where they keep dogs as pets for sometime and then kill it and eat, as someone asked them where is your dog which we saw a few weeks back to which they removed something from the refrigerator.
Essentially one should eat the way they are meant to eat. herbivores have long intestines, elephants, goats, sheep and monkeys as well are veg then why should we eat non veg.
ok if you are eating nonveg why not all the things that are living... eat humans, dogs, cats. No nonveg person will have an answer to that.

He really wanted to meditate and people kept asking him questions so finally he said that we will meditate for a short time and requested people who were leaving to sit for 5-7 mins that we shall meditate for 10 minutes.

Posted in: on Monday, January 28, 2008 at at 11:03 AM